From: “James A. Donald” <jamesd@echeque.com>
To: Ray Arachelian <sunder@sundernet.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1998-01-15 19:48:22 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 03:48:22 +0800
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 03:48:22 +0800
To: Ray Arachelian <sunder@sundernet.com>
Subject: Re: Crypto Kong penetration.
Message-ID: <199801151940.LAA08293@proxy3.ba.best.com>
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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, James A. Donald wrote:
>> If you try and shove that identity stuff onto people they
>> will not do it. Too much like hard work. They will
>> happily let the government licensed authorities do it for
>> them. The PGP model clearly has not flown yet, and it is
>> not going to fly.
At 02:16 PM 1/15/98 -0500, Ray Arachelian wrote:
> IMHO, this is pure grade A bullshit. If you included PGP
> in MsMail, and Eudora and pine and elm from the get go,
> everyone would use it.
Proven false by experiment: Observe what happened with
Verisign and MIME.
The cost is not signing your stuff. The cost is setting up a
key and publishing it, and getting other peoples keys and
verifying them.
Integration with Eudora makes it trivial to sign and to
decrypt, *after* you have created and uploaded a key, and
downloaded and verified other peoples keys, which is not
trivial.
People would rather the kindly benevolent government did that
hard stuff for them.
Verisign/MIME is *already* integrated into everyone's
mailers, and they are not using it because Verisign key
management is too hard, and Verisign key management is
arguably more user friendly than PGP key management, though
clearly less user friendly than Crypto Kong's (lack of) key
management.
--digsig
James A. Donald
6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG
s/7IS+OXDf+elZBg6ff+1Sq4aO4aoy9DRhH58rhP
4HFsRTnHTjnMnwGwjenI4jPJsM/0cy02LwoJAtbQ8
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