From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:15:22 -0800 (PST)
To: Information Security <guy@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Fight ECHELON while the topic is hot!
In-Reply-To: <199802241543.KAA18074@panix2.panix.com>
Message-ID: <199802241648.LAA15368@users.invweb.net>
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In <199802241543.KAA18074@panix2.panix.com>, on 02/24/98 
   at 10:43 AM, Information Security <guy@panix.com> said:

>Whooey!

>I'd say a number of senior people on this list are burnt
>out fighting the good fight.

>Did the government at least acknowledge it fucked up
>in the Weaver case to the tune of $3.1 million?

Nope, as a matter of fact the Administration was just arguing before the
SC that the murders in this case should not be held accountable.

>Didn't the person in charge, who Freeh promoted to
>second-in-command at the FBI, have his career destroyed?

One scapegoat and the organization goes on, business as usual. When I see
a 100,000 citizens storm the J.E.Hoover Building and drag that ratbastard
Freeh out by his heals then come back and tell us what a difference you
have made.

>Didn't the government finally back down on their
>attempt to legally kill the Unabomber?

So what? IMHO he should have been fried. Hell I'll even pay for the plane
ticket for him to come down here and meet 'ol sparky. :)

>Didn't the Pentagon Papers make it out?

What did it change? NOTHING

>Isn't ECHELON documented by person after person,
>including someone formerly in DOJ with top-secret
>clearance?

>Go for it!

>It is *you* who are advocating being a "sheeple"!!!

No not at all I just don't have any pie-in-the-sky daydreams that it will
mean squat! I have better things to do with my time than dealing with a
news media who's highest goal is to sell more tampons and toilet paper to
the sheeple.

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