From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:49:39 +0800
To: "Eric J. Tune" <paladin@lvcablemodem.com>
Subject: Re: PLO censoring pro-Iraqi sentiments
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In <3.0.5.32.19980219204255.007c3680@pop3.lvcablemodem.com>, on 02/19/98 
   at 08:42 PM, "Eric J. Tune" <paladin@lvcablemodem.com> said:


>>Eric Tune writes:
>>
>>> You know Tim, I respect most of what you write, and I respect you in
>>> that you have your own free will and opinions and the right to express
>>> them, but what you have forgotten in your anarchistic ravings is that
>>> PEOPLE DIED IN SOMALIA, including a personal friend of mine.  They were
>>> all somebody's son, brother, and friend. 
>>
>>So were the 100,000 Iraqi military killed by Bush, and the 1,000,000
>>Iraqis of all ages killed by US sanctions.  So were the civilians
>>bulldozed into mass graves in Panama, so the country would look neat and
>>tidy for the arrival of the ReportWhores.
>>
>>What the world needs now is not another mass killing of Iraqis by the
>>United States government.  What the world really needs now is a fifty
>>dollar weapon that sinks aircraft carriers.
>>
>>> These soldiers went where they were ordered to go, as befits a soldier,
>>> and tried to do the job they were given and accomplish the mission, and
>>> for that EVERY ONE OF THEM DESERVES Y O U R RESPECT.  I am quite sure
>>> the vast majority of them thought it was patently stupid to go to
>>> Somalia in the first place, but a soldier follows orders, legal ones,
>>> and tries to get the job done regardless of personal feelings.
>>
>>Most of them would probably follow "legal orders" to fire upon American
>>civilians too.  

>You ever served in the military?  Unless you've been under fire, you
>should shut the fuck up about shit you know nothing about nor could
>comprehend.

>>> The next time you "cheer to see the U.S. gets its tail kicked", why
>>> don't you think about the American troops who lost their lives or were
>>> maimed, or who were doing something they may have been personally and
>>> morally against, but they chose to be professional soldiers, and instead
>>> of displaying cowardice, they tried to do what was asked of them. 
>>
>>The universe does not view the lives of Americans as more valuable than
>>the lives of people murdered by Americans. 

>Listen up jerk, in case you didn't get any news during 1990, Iraq
>attacked Kuwait, and murdered thousands of Kuwaitis.  "Don't start no
>shit and there won't be no shit"... ever heard that, asshole?  America
>would have never been involved if Iraq hadn't invaded Kuwait.  I was
>there, in a Bradley, and we could have rolled all over Baghdad,
>especially after what the Iraqi bastards did to the Kuwaitis, but it
>wasn't done. Unfortunately Saddam Hussein stayed in power.  There will
>not be a shred of a chance for peace in that region until he is DEAD.  I
>don't think air strikes are the answer to this, and I think Clinton is a
>moron for his present policy, War is the worst thing that man can do to
>other men, and there is no such thing as "the good fight"... war is hell.
>Period.  Until you have been in a war, you have no idea of what you are
>talking about.  But if you think that Iraq was "more right" or better
>yet, "less wrong", you need a radical lobotomy, or perhaps you've already
>had one.

>>> Think of the innocent civilians who inevitably die in the conflicts
>>> started by the megalomaniacs like Saddam Hussein.
>>
>>You mean all those melted child car seats and scorched teddy bears on
>>George Bush's "Highway of Death" leading out of Kuwait? 

>Evidently, you again know nothing of what the Iraqis did to the Kuwaitis
>on their way in to Kuwait.  Get educated, shithead. 

>>Unfortunately, for all the braying Americans do about freedom, Americans
>>can never be truly happy unless someone is telling them what to do, or
>>they are telling someone else what to do, or they are bombing someone for
>>not doing what they have told them to do. 
>>
>>The only thing Americans understand is dead Americans.  The only thing. 

>You sound like nothing more than disillusioned, spoiled, pompous asshole
>when you presume to know what Americans "understand".  Your anarchistic
>ravings only mark you for the idiot you are.

>To everyone else besides Cordian who reads this, my apologies, but for
>all it's failings, I still have pride in America... ...not for all the
>foreign policy bullshit or the way the government fucks us over, or
>starts wars, or sticks their collective nose in other countries
>business...but for the fact that as a whole people, Americans still keep
>trying, everyday, to be a better people. I'm proud of that.

Wow! I haven't seen this kind of reactionary temper-tantrum since the last
4th of July BBQ down at the VFW.

So how long were you in?? Usally this type of "God save the King"
mentality wears off after a boot has been in the field for a few months.
For the more febal minded it lasts longer but they usally never make it
above Cpl. or 1st Lt.

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