From: Information Security <guy@panix.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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Raw Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 08:21:03 +0800
From: Information Security <guy@panix.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 08:21:03 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Fingerprinting in CA [was Whoa: British SmartCard rollout]
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> From bill.stewart@pobox.com Fri Feb 6 18:50:28 1998
>
> >> How did you CA cypherpunks feel about being fingerprinted?
>
> Well, if I'd been thinking about it, I'd have put some rubber cement and
> whiteout on my thumb before getting the license :-)
> More the issue at the time was that the politicians were
> busy deciding that your ability to drive safely obviously depended
> on whether your citizenship papers were in order (the month
> I got it they'd temporarily stopped doing that.)
But it is being rolled out all over, state-by-state, never a vote.
They don't have problems with illegal aliens in Georgia, USA.
A mercifully brief CM excerpt:
* Dr. Linda Thompson:
* YOUR STATE IS NEXT AND DON'T THINK OTHERWISE. Sandia and other defense
* contractors, without a war elsewhere, are OUT OF WORK, so they're
* creating job security for themselves by helping fascists wage war in the
* United States on us and our rights!!
*
* Georgia, Texas and Oregon ALREADY require fingerprints for licenses.
> California is already fingerprinting drivers, and many places outside of
> the US are creating identity cards with barcoded information.
>
> Also, AmSouth and Compass Banks will soon introduce fingerprinting of
> people who cash checks and have no account with their bank. This is
> now standard practice in Texas and will soon be nation-wide.
Oregon?
It's like Wired magazine reported: the NSA is behind it all.
The DMV records are online 24 hours for FBI access.
> I recently renewed the license, and they didn't ask for papers
> or thumbprints...
They already got your number.
When will some group express organized opposition to this?
---guy
Your fingerprint tattoo.
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