From: mgraffam@mhv.net
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:29:59 -0800 (PST)
To: StanSquncr <StanSquncr@aol.com>
Subject: Re: UPSs
In-Reply-To: <7341d3ab.3511906d@aol.com>
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On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, StanSquncr wrote:

> In a message dated 98-03-19 05:36:18 EST, jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu writes:
> 
> << How many times have you been struck by lightning, Stan?  The effects are
>  showing...  >>
> 
> That, my fellow cypherpunks, was known as a 'ad hominem' attack (an attack on
> (supposed) character, because Ken Williams is too STUPID (after all, he's a
> "Know-nothing") to be able to attack what I've said.)

Actually, I believe it was because what you said was too stupid to be
attacked.. no offense.

The thread was about TEMPEST-related EMR. .. and your quote in question
was:

>BUT, even the fastest electronics cannot respond fast enough to the initial
>spike, if that spike is too high in the first place (if your incoming power
>lines get hit by lightning, for instance), it's already too late.  My
>suggestion, don't trust a UPS to eliminate spikes, get it if you
> anticipate a need for back-up power to shut down your system in case of
> black-out (and screw the surge protectors, trust the filtering in your
> power supply to do that for you.)

See.. now.. you're clearly talking about power protection.. but, you see
we _weren't_ talking about power outages, we were talking about
compromising emanations being sent through power lines.. and as far
as the UPS goes, whether or not a UPS would help such muffle such
emanations.

Two completely different things. You may as well have said "Yeah, UPS is
great. They have good rates on ground shipping."

In which case the response of..

> << How many times have you been struck by lightning, Stan?  The effects
> are showing...  >>

..might well be appropriate.

Michael J. Graffam (mgraffam@mhv.net)
http://www.mhv.net/~mgraffam -- Philosophy, Religion, Computers, Crypto, etc
I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. It is not
desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right.
				Henry David Thoreau "Civil Disobedience"

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