From: John Young <jya@pipeline.com>
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From: John Young <jya@pipeline.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:08:57 -0700 (PDT)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Programmers flee Y2K problem -- and we're spooked too
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Here's a Y2K contribution:
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:49:00 -0600
From: Jim Burnes <jim.burnes@ssds.com>
To: John Young <jya@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Would you like to archive something for me?
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Ok, here it is (the largest attachment I've done so far ;-) [See end]
Here is the skinny....
IRS is going to award the contract for its Y2K remediation
sometime in October, which is of course a joke. By most
estimates they have on the order of 100million lines of
code to fix, much of it flakey and undocumented. Any
Autocoder programmers left? Anyway, the CIO of the
IRS quit recently and this file (prime.pdf) was his plea
for help before he left and bought gold or something.
If you go to the IRS page that Gary North references
this document is just plain gone. Its extremely telling
if you look at the data flow diagrams for IRS administrative
systems. Its so huge that a I had to zoom in 4 or 5 times
before subsystem names started to resolve. I downloaded this
when it was posted because after reading it I knew someone
would eventually yank it.
Jim
PS: Some quick math: 100 million lines of code/1 million
lines per year = 100 years to fix. 1 million lines
per year is how fast the Social (in)Security Administration
was able to fix their code and even they won't be
compliant. ;-)
Feel free to post this message (but not the attachment ;-)
to cypherpunks.
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What Jim sent is the May 1997 IRS RFC which shows
the stypefying complexity of the IRS computer octupus
and daunting job of fixing Y2K. It is in PDF format,
1,248K in size:
http://jya.com/prime.pdf
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