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1998-04-22 - Re: Position escrow

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From: Jonathan Wienke <JonWienk@ix.netcom.com>
To: Lucky Green <karn@Qualcomm.com>
Message Hash: dabe6d71f7ac135754c5e94739cfc0f7fdb2b3a044a5d1251517726b2191863c
Message ID: <3.0.3.32.19980422104042.02f10a40@popd.netcruiser>
Reply To: <199804212208.PAA22084@servo.qualcomm.com>
UTC Datetime: 1998-04-22 18:16:33 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:16:33 -0700 (PDT)

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From: Jonathan Wienke <JonWienk@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:16:33 -0700 (PDT)
To: Lucky Green <karn@Qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: Position escrow
In-Reply-To: <199804212208.PAA22084@servo.qualcomm.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980422104042.02f10a40@popd.netcruiser>
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At 04:43 PM 4/21/98 -0700, Lucky Green wrote:
>On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Phil Karn wrote:
>
>> This is a really difficult issue. Even the most diehard cypherpunk
>> cannot doubt the usefulness of a cellular position reporting
>> capability in an emergency situation, when the user *wants* the cops
>> or whoever to know where he is.  The big problem is how to keep it
>> from being used (or abused) for "law enforcement" purposes without the
>> consent of the user.
>
>Usfull != good idea. If the information is available for some purposes, 
>it is, or soon will, become available for other purposes. The only way to 
>prevent this is to not make the information available for *any* purpose.
>
>I gladly take the cellphone without 911 locator over the cellphone with 
>24/7 postion escrow. Furthermore, I content that there is no middle 
>ground between the two. Assuming of course the phone doesn't have an 
>active locator device that can be enabled using a special 911 button.
>
>YMMV.

Regardless of the type of phone, the cell stations can be designed to do
time-of-arrival comparisons on the signal transmitted from the phone and
calculate a reasonably accurate position.  If you don't want your location
known, don't transmit.


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