From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart@pobox.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:12:02 -0700 (PDT)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: IP: Uncle Sam is Hooked on Forfeiture (fwd)
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Somebody, probably Vlad, forwarded this via Swiss Remailer.
I normally try not to reply to Ignition-Points forwards here,
but this one's relevant.  "Access devices" often includes things like
computer passwords as well as smartcards for building entry.
So "Crack a password, lose your computer" would apply
as well as "Crack 15+ passwords, get busted".

I don't know if that was Senator Sleazy's intent with the bill,
but it's an obvious application if not.  Did the bill pass?

>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 16:21:31 -0400
>From: Patricia Neill <pnpj@db1.cc.rochester.edu>
>To: ignition-point@majordomo.pobox.com
>Subject: IP: Uncle Sam is Hooked on Forfeiture
>
>  4.Counterfeit Access Devices 
>          S.1148 
>          SPONSOR: Sen D'Amato (introduced 09/04/97) 
>          TITLE(S): 
>          OFFICIAL TITLE AS INTRODUCED: 
>          A bill to amend title 49, United States Code, to require the
>forfeiture of counterfeit access devices and device-making equipment. 
>               "Amends Federal transportation law to declare counterfeit
>access devices and device-making equipment  contraband subject to mandatory
>seizure and forfeiture."
>
>     Well, what are we talking about here? Duplicate key for the apartment?
>What can it be extended to tomorrow, is the real question.

				Thanks! 
					Bill
Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com
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