1998-06-03 - punching the Great FASCIST Satan in the nose

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From: bill payne <billp@nmol.com>
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From: bill payne <billp@nmol.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 23:23:18 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: punching the Great FASCIST Satan in the nose
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Monday 6/1/98 7:16 PM

John Young

The SAND report you posted at http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm was a 
DELIBERATE attempt to send NSA a message.  I had some help
from Sandia classification.


        refrigerator magnet
        Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:16:01 -0600
        bill payne <billp@nmol.com>
        masanori fushimi <fushimi@misojiro.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
        cypherpunks@toad.com, ukcrypto@maillist.ox.ac.uk

Monday 6/1/98 6:05 PM


I put the refrigerator magnet

          1945 509th COMPOSITE GROUP 1995


             50th ANNIVERSARY

in the mail to you today.

Reason I sent the magnet is to show THAT THERE ARE SOME REALLY-SICK
MINDS [see reverse side of magnet] IN POWER in the US.

Just got off the phone with John Young.

Governments, including Japan, TRY to mess with peoples'
minds.  There is a book on this.


David Felton

But I have a solution.  I do not read e-mail.  At this time.

I also believe in what Kahn wrote

   Thursday, March 20, 1980, 09:30 David Kahn addressed Congress,
        the Committee on Government Operations.

        Kahn stated to the committee,

             A final benefit is that refusing  to restrict cryptologic
             studies erects yet another rampart against the chipping
             away of American liberties.  Is this rampart, again, worth
             danger to national security?  Yes, because the danger is
             not as acute as the N.S.A. wishes people to see it.  N.S.A.
             wants people to think that publication of cryptologic
             material would slam shut its window into the Third World
             countries.  In fact such publication has little effect ...
             The national security dangers are not so great as to
             dismantle individual freedom.

             For all of these reasons, then, no limitation should be
             placed on the study of cryptology.  And beyond them all
             lies something more fundamental, in the end, will probably
             prevent any restrictions anyway.  It is called the First

             I thank you.

I hope you see that I am using the seventh amendment.


And even more adamantly I believe

  For what shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world and
  lose his own soul.

  Kahn on Codes page 172

Best regards