1998-06-26 - Re: Skipjack extensibility

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From: Bill Frantz <frantz@netcom.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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Reply To: <199806250705.JAA31711@basement.replay.com>
UTC Datetime: 1998-06-26 06:32:36 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:32:36 -0700 (PDT)

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From: Bill Frantz <frantz@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:32:36 -0700 (PDT)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Skipjack extensibility
In-Reply-To: <199806250705.JAA31711@basement.replay.com>
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At 11:05 PM -0800 6/24/98, Anonymous wrote:
>NSA made a claim that Skipjack couldn't be extended past 80 bits of key. Most
>plausible explanation to my mind is that they're lying. Second is that
>there is
>an attack against a class of Skipjack-like ciphers that requires only a few
>plaintexts and 2^80 operations. Third is that some common key-lengthening
>tricks like those for 2-key-3DES, DES-X, and DEAL fail when applied to
>Skipjack. I can hardly fathom one resistant to all three, but I guess it's
>possible with NSA.

3DES is useful because DES does not form a group.  To the best of my
knowledge, Skipjack has not been analysed in this area (outside of Never
Say Anything).


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