From: bill payne <billp@nmol.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 23:26:03 -0700 (PDT)
To: softwar@softwar.net
Subject: crypto-related sinkings of u-boats
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Thursday 8/20/98 12:22 PM

Gudmundur Helgason http://uboat.net/
Olduslod 41
IS-220 Hafnarfjordur
Iceland 

How many u-boat sinkings can be DIRECTLY related to a ciphered messages
decoded by the Allies?

My impression is that the crypto-stuff was mostly self-inflating PR done
for business reasons by the 'intelligence' agencies.  

Hedgehogs, hf/df, sonar, radar, and visual sightings played the major
role, was my impression.

However, it looks like some REAL DAMAGE was done using crypto.

http://www.aci.net/kalliste/speccoll.htm   
http://caq.com/cryptogate  
http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm  
http://www.qainfo.se/~lb/crypto_ag.htm 

ABQ Journal u 8/16/98  A16 reports

  Iraq Welcomes First Iran Pilgrims Since War

  Families Heading to Muslim Shrines

  By Mariam Sami
  The Associated Press

     AL-MUNTHERIYA, Iraq -  Iranian pilgrims carrying red plastic roses
   entered Iraq on Saturday, the first such border crossing since the
two states
   declared war on each other 18 years ago. ...

    Mehrangiz Terhani, a 55-year-old house-wife who lost a son and a
  brother during the war,  was weeping so hard she had trouble speaking.

    "We have to forget the past," she said.  "I am happy and honored to
  go to a place that I've been waiting to visit for a long time."

I am not reading e-mail.

Best
http://www.apcatalog.com/cgi-bin/AP?ISBN=0125475705&LOCATION=US&FORM=FORM2
http://jya.com/f86/whpf86.htm