From: Dave Brown <dbrown@alaska.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:10:42 +0800
To: mark@sixdegrees.com
Subject: Re: A personal response to your email to sixdegrees
In-Reply-To: <35FFD638.DB6920D3@sixdegrees.com>
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And don't allow them to be listed again.....It'll only piss off more people.
  --Dave

At 10:09 AM 9/16/98 -0700, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>
>Mark, trust me on this: remove all five cypherpunks addresses from your
>lists.
>
>Really.
>
>-Declan
>
>
>On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Mark Salamon wrote:
>
>> (I was not sure which email address to send this to, as the return
>> address was:  nobody@replay.com.  I also do not know who to address this
>> email to.)
>> 
>> I am the WHOIS contact at sixdegrees you sent this email to, and since
>> this is a peronal reply to your email, it is certainly NOT spam and I
>> would appreciate it if you would take the time to read it and respond.
>> 
>> I am very confused by your email.  I understand that you do not wish to
>> receive emails from sixdegrees, but it is very easy to solve this
>> problem.  If anyone ever sponsors you for sixdegrees, simply reply to
>> the email and put the word "remove" in the header.  (This is pretty
>> standard stuff across the Internet, as I am sure you are aware.)  If
>> that occurs, in the future we will not send emails to the email address
>> that received the original email from us.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, if you have many email addresses (as it appears, from the
>> bottom of your email), the only way for us to remove each is to have a
>> sixdegrees email go to each of these email address accounts and then
>> received a "remove" reply to each of these emails.  (We have in our
>> records references to 5 different cypherpunks email addresses: 
>> @toad.com, @cypherpunks.net, @cypherpunks.org, @algebra.com, and
>> @ssz.com.  If you wish for us not to contact you again at any of these
>> addresses, we will need to confirm that you in fact control these email
>> addresses.  The best way for you to do this is to send an email to
>> cancel@sixdegrees.com, and ask to have these email addresses removed. 
>> We will then send a reply to each email address you listed, asking you
>> to confirm that you in fact control those email addresses and wish to
>> have them removed.  Once we receive your confirmation, we will adjust
>> our records so you receive no further emails from us to those email
>> addresses.  For example, if I receive an email from you to this email, I
>> will assume that you control the @toad.com email address and I will have
>> that removed.)
>> 
>> What is confusing to me is that the email you received from sixdegrees
>> (with the subject:  Harald Fragner) is one that would be sent ONLY to a
>> CONFIRMED sixdegrees user.  That means that once upon a time, whether
>> you remember or not, you joined sixdegrees (as have over 1,000,000
>> people to date).  It also appears that you listed Harald Fragner as a
>> contact, and he recently denied his sixdegrees relationship with you. 
>> Thus, it is not surprising that you would receive emails from
>> sixdegrees, as you had registered for our service at one time.  (I
>> assume that the email address you used to register with sixdegrees was
>> the @toad.com one.)
>> 
>> sixdegrees is purely a voluntary service, and if you do not want to
>> participate in it, then we are happy to accommodate you.  We do not send
>> out spam and take great efforts to ensure that no one receives unwanted
>> email from us.
>> 
>> I look forward to receiving your reply to this email.
>> 
>> Mark Salamon
>> General Counsel
>> MacroView Communications Corp.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anonymous wrote:
>> > 
>> > On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, the shitheads at sixdegrees spammed the Cypherpunks
>> > list with:
>> > 
>> > > Just a quick update from sixdegrees(tm). Unfortunately Harald
>> > > Fragner (harald@fragner.net) asked not to be listed as your
>> > > contact with sixdegrees.
>> > >
>> > > We also wanted to make sure you were aware that you currently
>> > > have no other confirmed contacts, so it will be hard for you to
>> > > have a productive sixdegrees experience. As you probably know,
>> > > without any confirmed contacts, you won't get any results from our
>> > > networking searches.
>> > >
>> > > So, we just wanted to recommend that you head over to
>> > > http://www.sixdegrees.com , log-in, and go to MY CONTACTS
>> > > to list additional relationships.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ====================================================================
>> > > PLEASE NOTE: All replies to this address are processed by a computer.
>> > > If you have any problems, questions or requests send an e-mail to
>> > > issues@sixdegrees.com and someone will get back to you as soon as
>> > > possible.
>> > > ====================================================================
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > E.DB.BRESP.3
>> > >
>> > >
>> > 
>> > Just a quick update from the Cypherpunks(tm). Fortunately, we don't want
>> > anything to do with your worthless, pathetic, spamming selves. We don't
>> > want to be your friends and, in fact, we'd prefer it if you would crawl
>> > under a rock and die because that seems to be the only way you'll stop
>> > spamming our mailing list.
>> > 
>> > We also wanted to make sure that you were aware that you currently
have no
>> > confirmed redeeming qualities, so it will be hard for you to be taken
>> > seriously by those of us who do have a clue. As you probably know,
without
>> > any redeeming qualities, you will get lots of results every time you send
>> > out a batch of spam.
>> > 
>> > So, we just wanted to recommend that you head on over to your bathtub
with
>> > the rest of your coworkers, fill it up, jump in together, and then
drop in
>> > a large, plugged-in, turned-on electric heater into the water and remain
>> > in until you stop twitching and cardiac activity ceases.
>> > 
>> > C.LU.EFULS.2000
>> > 
>> > You people don't give a fuck how much excrement you shoot all over the
>> > net, so long as you let people know of your pathetic, worthless,
>> > disgusting service. If you can get somebody's mailing list to relay your
>> > shit for you, so much the better, because then you don't have to
>> > personally send it.
>> > 
>> > Sorry, but I've had it with Sixdegrees. I've personally told you idiots
>> > very nicely what the Cypherpunks list is, and asked you nicely to stop
>> > spamming it. I've personally told you a method to keep people from
>> > submitting these addresses to your worthless spam haven. Other people
have
>> > done the same thing. You haven't fixed it, indicating that you don't
care.
>> > I'm no longer asking nicely.
>> > 
>> > A copy is being sent to your technical contact, on the assumption that
>> > maybe he is a little more responsible, though I doubt it.
>> > 
>> > -- The Cypherpunks List <cypherpunks@toad.com,
>> > cypherpunks@*.cyberpass.net, cypherpunks@*.ssz.com,
>> > cypherpunks@algebra.com, and others>
>> 
>> 
>> 
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