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From: Information Security <guy@panix.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:38:28 +0800
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Re: Aaron Debunks Crypto Myths
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> From: John Young <jya@pipeline.com>
>
> Crypto emissary David Aaron gave a speech today in
> Germany boosting US encryption policy for privacy and
> commerce. Says it's an insult to claim US intelligence
> agencies want backdoor access and other untrue myths:
>
> http://jya.com/aaron101398.htm
A prime example of DoubleThink, since Key Recovery == backdoor access.
# http://jya.com/aaron101398.htm
#
# Clearly, a balance must be struck between the needs of businesses and
# consumers and the protection of society as a whole. What is the
# answer? We believe the answer lies in cryptographic systems that
# provide trustworthy security services along with lawful access. By
# lawful access, I refer to a range of technologies designed to permit
# the plain text recovery of encrypted data and communications under a
^^^^^^^^
# court order or other lawful means that safeguards civil liberties.
In other words, they believe in cryptographic systems with backdoor access.
The NSA testified to Congress concerning lawful access:
: The Puzzle Palace
: Inside the National Security Agency,
: America's most secret intelligence organization
: Author James Bamford, 1983 revision, ISBN 0-14-00.6748-5
:
: P381-382: NSA Director General Allen testified to Congress that there is no
: statute that prevents the NSA from interception of domestic communications.
: Asked whether he was concerned about the legality of expanding greatly its
: targeting of American citizens, the NSA replied: "Legality? That particular
: aspect didn't enter into the discussions."
The government's idea of "lawful access" is "anywhere, anytime".
# http://jya.com/aaron101398.htm
#
# We are not wedded to any single technology approach. Key management
# infrastructures, key recovery and other recoverable products that
# provide lawful access are some of the ways to achieve a reasonable
# balance. We believe that seeking industry-led, market-based solutions
# is the best approach to helping law enforcement.
Oh dey do do dey?
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: Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:58:46 -0400
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: From: research@isr.net (Research Unit I)
: Subject: Re: Encryption Outside US
:
: I was part of that OECD Expert Group, and believe I may shine at least
: some light on what exactly was said and happened at the meetings.
:
: The main conflict during all sessions was the demand of the US to be
: able to decrypt anything, anywhere at any time versus the European
: focus: we want to have the choice - with an open end - to maintain
: own surveillance. The US demand would have caused an immediate
: ability to tap into what the European intelligence community believes to
: be its sole and exclusive territory. In fact the Europeans were not at all
: pleased with the US view points of controlling ALL crypto. Germany and
: France vigorously refused to work with the US on this issue.
:
: ... the Australian and UK views that felt some obligation
: from the 1947 UKUSA treaty (dealing with interchange of intelligence).
:
: Bertil Fortrie
: Internet Security Review
The US Government insists on the capability
"to decrypt anything, anywhere at any time"
he said.
Gosh, that doesn't sound like they believe "market-based solutions"
are the best approach, does it?
* http://epic.org/crypto/ban/fbi_dox/impact_text.gif
*
* SECRET FBI report
*
* NEED FOR A NATIONAL POLICY
*
* A national policy embodied in legislation is needed which insures
* that cryptography use in the United States should be forced to be
* crackable by law enforcement, so such communications can be monitored
* with real-time decryption.
*
* All cryptography that cannot meet this standard should be prohibited.
No it don't, do it?
: * "Above the Law"
: * ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996
: * by David Burnham
: *
: * The suspicion that the government might one day try to outlaw any
: * encryption device which did not provide easy government access was
: * reinforced by comments made by FBI Director Freeh at a 1994 Washington
: * conference on cryptography. "The objective for us is to get those
: * conversations...wherever they are, whatever they are", he said in
: * response to a question.
: *
: * Freeh indicated that if five years from now the FBI had solved the
: * access problem but was only hearing encrypted messages, further
: * legislation might be required.
Anywhere, anytime.
---guy
"Easy access".
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