From: "Joel O'Connor" <ogrenivek@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:15:49 +0800
To: Chip Mefford <cmefford@video.avwashington.com>
Subject: Re: your mail
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That's cool man, I see your point.  Guess I shouldn't knock it when
I've only had one experience.  It's true, I got on the train quicker
than I've ever gotten on a flight and didn't face any harrassment. 
Actually, I faced more harrassment from my Gestapo math teacher in
high school trying to board a bus than getting on the train.  He
looked at me and told me I was trouble and searched every crevice of
my bag, personal being and space.  "But doctor, both your hands on my
shoulders. . ."you get the point and that's exactly what's happening
to us each and every day.  




---Chip Mefford <cmefford@video.avwashington.com> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> I've taken that same route, except up 
> to no. Vermont rather than RI,
> 
> I travelled anonymously, for an extra 50 bux, 
> I had my own little private cabin, I was never
> searched, my bags were never xrayed by incompetent
> androids, was able to find company from the 
> hordes that you describe to sit with me in my
> lil cabin and spend some time (wink wink, nudge
> nudge) and so forth. 
> 
> yeah, an entire day spent with a whole pile of 
> folks can really be a horrible drag, and I'm
> told that travelling on the weekends thats
> what you can expect. 
> 
> But, shuffling in and out of Polizei Central, 
> subjecting myself to xrays and potential 
> cavity searches, showing ID to every bone
> head that demands it, just seems a little
> too kyrstalnachtish for my taste, I don't care
> if I EVER fly again. 
> 
> Its easier, less hassle, more anonymous to
> travel by train than it is to drive, or
> for that matter, walk.
> 
> yes, its VERY easy for the SS
> to stop and search a train, but the plane 
> is a forgone situation. By entering an
> airport, you've already consented to be
> stripped of nearly every right you thought
> you may have had.
> 
> I had an experience like you describe travelling
> from Atlanta to DC by bus once when a young-un. 
> I too, swore I'd never do it again, and I didn't,
> not till I mustered out of the military and they
> stuck me on a 10 hr busride to the nearest
> depot to go home, and yes, I still hated it.
> 
> to each his own, 
> 
> take care
> 
> chipper
> 
> On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Joel O'Connor wrote:
> 
> > I traveled by train all the way to Florida from Rhode Island once.
 24
> > hours straight it took man and I swore I would never do it again. 
> > 40-50 people per car and basically one bathroom per car.  Come
morning
> > time man, the lines for the bathrooms stretched out of the cars. 
> > Screw that, I could have flown and made it in 3 hours. Plus it's
> > easier for the gov't to stop trains and search them, I'd rather go
> > with the flight.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ---Chip Mefford <cmefford@video.avwashington.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Where possible, 
> > > 
> > > fuk a bunch of airlines anyway.
> > > 
> > > Travel by train is a lot more enjoyable, relaxing, fun.
> > > Folks that travel by train could fly, but would
> > > preferr to enjoy the ride, cause it ain't no cheaper, 
> > > 
> > > except, !!
> > > 
> > > you can pay with cash and show no id and go
> > > where you would like in the lower 48.
> > > 
> > > anonymously.
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Anonymous wrote:
> > > 
> > > > At 02:43 PM 10/26/98 -0400, Robert A. Costner wrote:
> > > > >At 01:15 PM 10/26/98 -0500, Duncan Frissell wrote:
> > > > >>9.  "I do not posses any government-issued photo ID and thus
> > cannot travel
> > > > >>to the location stated in the subpoena. 
> > > > >
> > > > >ROTFLMAO...
> > > > >
> > > > >This last one is too funny to not use.  I don't have a
subpoena,
> > but I can
> > > > >just see myself writing back explaining this and requesting
> > assistance with
> > > > >a plane flight to solve this problem.
> > > > 
> > > > Actually you don't need state id to fly, legally.  But the
> > airlines will
> > > > hassle you and not put your bags aboard til you are.  There
> > > > are references on the net to flying without state id.
> > > > 
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> > 
> > ==
> > Ogre bounces like sonar. . .Peace.
> >                   Ogre
> > 
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> 

==
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                  Ogre

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