From: Chip Mefford <cmefford@video.avwashington.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:14:40 +0800
To: "Joel O'Connor" <ogrenivek@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: your mail
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I've taken that same route, except up 
to no. Vermont rather than RI,

I travelled anonymously, for an extra 50 bux, 
I had my own little private cabin, I was never
searched, my bags were never xrayed by incompetent
androids, was able to find company from the 
hordes that you describe to sit with me in my
lil cabin and spend some time (wink wink, nudge
nudge) and so forth. 

yeah, an entire day spent with a whole pile of 
folks can really be a horrible drag, and I'm
told that travelling on the weekends thats
what you can expect. 

But, shuffling in and out of Polizei Central, 
subjecting myself to xrays and potential 
cavity searches, showing ID to every bone
head that demands it, just seems a little
too kyrstalnachtish for my taste, I don't care
if I EVER fly again. 

Its easier, less hassle, more anonymous to
travel by train than it is to drive, or
for that matter, walk.

yes, its VERY easy for the SS
to stop and search a train, but the plane 
is a forgone situation. By entering an
airport, you've already consented to be
stripped of nearly every right you thought
you may have had.

I had an experience like you describe travelling
from Atlanta to DC by bus once when a young-un. 
I too, swore I'd never do it again, and I didn't,
not till I mustered out of the military and they
stuck me on a 10 hr busride to the nearest
depot to go home, and yes, I still hated it.

to each his own, 

take care

chipper

On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Joel O'Connor wrote:

> I traveled by train all the way to Florida from Rhode Island once.  24
> hours straight it took man and I swore I would never do it again. 
> 40-50 people per car and basically one bathroom per car.  Come morning
> time man, the lines for the bathrooms stretched out of the cars. 
> Screw that, I could have flown and made it in 3 hours. Plus it's
> easier for the gov't to stop trains and search them, I'd rather go
> with the flight.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---Chip Mefford <cmefford@video.avwashington.com> wrote:
> >
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> > 
> > Where possible, 
> > 
> > fuk a bunch of airlines anyway.
> > 
> > Travel by train is a lot more enjoyable, relaxing, fun.
> > Folks that travel by train could fly, but would
> > preferr to enjoy the ride, cause it ain't no cheaper, 
> > 
> > except, !!
> > 
> > you can pay with cash and show no id and go
> > where you would like in the lower 48.
> > 
> > anonymously.
> > 
> > On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Anonymous wrote:
> > 
> > > At 02:43 PM 10/26/98 -0400, Robert A. Costner wrote:
> > > >At 01:15 PM 10/26/98 -0500, Duncan Frissell wrote:
> > > >>9.  "I do not posses any government-issued photo ID and thus
> cannot travel
> > > >>to the location stated in the subpoena. 
> > > >
> > > >ROTFLMAO...
> > > >
> > > >This last one is too funny to not use.  I don't have a subpoena,
> but I can
> > > >just see myself writing back explaining this and requesting
> assistance with
> > > >a plane flight to solve this problem.
> > > 
> > > Actually you don't need state id to fly, legally.  But the
> airlines will
> > > hassle you and not put your bags aboard til you are.  There
> > > are references on the net to flying without state id.
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> ==
> Ogre bounces like sonar. . .Peace.
>                   Ogre
> 
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