From: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:12:03 +0800
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Subject: Re: TCQ ascii version
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From: Charles Demas <demas@tiac.net>
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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, David Meyer wrote:

> You are not the person who posted the original message, but I'll extend my
> request to you: provide some reasonable, legitimate, requirement for
> anonymity.

How about a government employee taking part in political discussion
without the fear of suffering some form of reprisal by their elected
superiors?

How about a gay person that's still in the closet that wants to discuss
how to explain their situation to their family without the fear that
their sexual preference would be exposed?

How about those that are HIV positive looking for support while living in
a small town that is very afraid of those with HIV, and where the
knowledge that one is HIV positive has driven people from the community?

How about someone that feels they may be getting sexually harassed but
isn't sure that they want to confront their harasser, but wants some
advice?

How about a rape, incest, or domestic violence victim that is looking for
some support group but doesn't want to go public yet?

How about the alcoholic, drug user, gambler trying to come to terms with
their problem.  How about the relatives of those with that type of
problem that are looking for a private way to deal/handle the problems
associated with their relative's problem?

How about the runaway that is looking for a way to go home, or the
suicidal person that is looking for help.  Must they go public to
get that help, or should they be able to ask questions anonymously?

How about the person that wants to turn in someone that's going to
commit a crime?

There are lots of good reasons that people want privacy and anonymity,
and lots of them have to do with the prejudices of others about the
issue that the person wants to keep private.


Chuck Demas
Needham, Mass.


> I can think of one reason to treasure anonymity: fear of retribution.
> For what? Oh, anything. Doesn't matter what. You are planning to do
> something that will cause someone else to take notice of you and respond
> in a way you fear. Send you to jail? Fire you? Break your fingers? Close
> your internet access? The problem is that these things are seldom done
> on a whim. Mostly, for just cause. Who says it is just? You do. You say
> "I am about to do something that's going to bring heaven and earth down
> around my shoulders if I do not protect my identity." This fear may be
> real or imagined.
>
> Please explain, with some detail, what reason a sane, guiltless person
> might have for anonymity. Giving away $million$?
>
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Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@philodox.com>
Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/>
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,
[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'