1998-11-11 - Re: IP: Clinton Wants Loophole In U.S. Free Speech Closed (fwd)

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From: Jim Choate <ravage@EINSTEIN.ssz.com>
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From: Jim Choate <ravage@EINSTEIN.ssz.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:57:42 +0800
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Subject: Re: IP: Clinton Wants Loophole In U.S. Free Speech Closed (fwd)
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> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:06:22 +1000
> From: Reeza! <howree@cable.navy.mil>
> Subject: Re: IP: Clinton Wants Loophole In U.S. Free Speech Closed

> Notice how, in each of the amendments below, the 1st is the only one with
> the text "congress shall make no law".
> 
> This is implied, understood to be implied, accepted as implied and supreme
> court ruled to be implied as applicable to each of the rest of the bill of
> rights, and later to the amendments, wherein it is not so specified as in
> the 1st.
> 
> A large part of the reason that 2 thru 10 and the rest do not include that
> phrase is to prevent the states from doing the very thing that congress was
> and is prohibited from.

Read the 10th again you don't understand what it is saying. 

It *specificaly* says that unless the Constitution assigns it to the feds
*or* prohibits it then the states are *exactly* the ones that are able to do
what Congress is prohibited from doing. The states are limited by their
own consititions which are guaranteed to be representative in nature.

The states absolutely have the right to regulate gun laws (as in the Texas
constitution) provided they don't infringe (what part of shall not do you
not understand) on the actual possession. Licenses and background checks
at the state level are absolutely constitutional.

State regulation on speech, press, etc. are also completely constitutional
as well. And is where such regulation should take place. If you don't like
your states laws move to one you do like.

That's what it means to live in a democracy, freedom of choice - not
homogeneity (on this point ol' Alex was wrong, wrong, wrong).


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