1998-11-17 - Re: Question about anarchic systems and natural disasters (fwd)

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From: Soren <sorens@workmail.com>
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Message Hash: 8e19a18206144e6d21c19f64a47b6a3cdf6d570f4beb3124626524bf63397105
Message ID: <3651632E.E0474BB@workmail.com>
Reply To: <000401be11e0$df151580$368195cf@blanc>
UTC Datetime: 1998-11-17 11:25:32 UTC
Raw Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:25:32 +0800

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From: Soren <sorens@workmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:25:32 +0800
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Re: Question about anarchic systems and natural disasters (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <000401be11e0$df151580$368195cf@blanc>
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Blanc wrote:
> 
> >From Jim Choate:
> 
> : The question was how would an anarchic system work in this respect, not how
> : do governments, relief organizations, and the general public act now.
> ................................................
> 
> The answer is that you cannot know in advance.   Since anarchies are not formal
> societies, there would exist no centralized formal structures, so therefore such
> behavior cannot be predicted.   Responses to emergeny situations would depend
> upon the psychology of those who are living in anarchy.  Predicting how they
> would "work", when no one is coerced to function, requires imagining the
> potential for normal responses available to those who are free from remote
> control, who can decide for themselves whether they care, and what they're going
> to do about it, if anything.
> 



Simple,  they would work anarchically.  If the guy whose house is
burning down is an assh*le, then let it burn.

Somewhen in the last 50 odd years, equality of opportunity (to not be an
assh*le), got confused with egalitarianism (all 
people get the same treatment, assh*les included).

Anarchy is admitting that egalitarianism can never work without
promoting assh*lism.

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