1998-11-10 - fuck copyright (Re: Advertising Creepiness) (fwd)

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From: Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>
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From: Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:09:29 +0800
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Subject: fuck copyright (Re: Advertising Creepiness) (fwd)
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> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:38:21 GMT
> From: Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk>
> Subject: fuck copyright (Re: Advertising Creepiness)

> Who cares if it's legal or not.

Lot's of people.

> I think the conclusion of crypto-anarchy is that copyright seems
> unlikely to survive as a schelling point for making money from
> publications.

Then crypto-anarchy is in for a big surprise.

> You can make money from information provision by charging extra for
> up-to-date news, or by charging so little that the cost from the
> original provider is so low that it's not worth anyones time to
> redistribute it,

That's true now, why don't we see these effects...

> or by providing higher bandwidth connection to the
> net than the mirrors,

Then why have the mirrors? There is also the issue of end-user bandwidth
limitations and network delays that make this less than decisive.

 or by making do with click throughs from the
> percentage of people who use the original rather than the cheaper
> mirror.

So, raise your rates to license the mirror.

> To say it's "not legal to republish" is saying what? that you think

It's saying it's not right  for a 3rd party to derive profit or income
from that work without a percentage being channeled back to the original
author (at least for a limited time).


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