From: Jim Choate <ravage@EINSTEIN.ssz.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:51:50 +0800
To: cypherpunks@EINSTEIN.ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
Subject: Re: IP: Clinton Wants Loophole In U.S. Free Speech Closed (fwd)
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> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:53:29 -0500
> From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart@pobox.com>
> Subject: Re: IP: Clinton Wants Loophole In U.S. Free Speech Closed (fwd)

> >State regulation on speech, press, etc. are also completely constitutional
> 
> The 14th supersedes this somewhat; states can't violate 
> federal-constitutional rights in ways that they could before it
> when they had the 10th to permit them.

Where? Speech is a right not an immunity or privilige and the 14th doesn't
extend a single right only federaly mandated immunities and priviliges.

That is unless you're willing to let your rights become priviliges or
immunities given by the federal government. Not exactly what a right started
out to be.

The 14th is great spin-doctor bull-shit.

> Some freedom of choice - if you don't like what the government forces 
> on you, move.  "Democracy" means that if 50% of the people
> vote for a system like that, you're stuck with it.

Actualy ours requires 75%.

> Now, it's certainly better than systems like serfdom or Sovietism,
> where you weren't allowed to move either, and it's also better
> to have non-homogeneity available nearby.

True, but this is confusing a particular implimentation (however flawed)
with the principles behind it. Not the most accurate representation.


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