1998-12-30 - Re: CLT&G Update: 29 Dec 98 (fwd)

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From: Jim Choate <ravage@EINSTEIN.ssz.com>
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From: Jim Choate <ravage@EINSTEIN.ssz.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:17:39 +0800
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Subject: Re: CLT&G Update: 29 Dec 98 (fwd)
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> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 08:53:44 -0800
> From: Michael Motyka <mmotyka@lsil.com>
> Subject: Re: CLT&G Update: 29 Dec 98

> >The entire point of a consitutional democracy is to avoid >centralization.
> >
> >A better way to word this is that we should be afraid of the federal
> >government becoming the central government.
> >
> The ENTIRE point?

The ENTIRE point.

> ONE of the points was to define and limit the extents of centralization. 

No, the point of a democratic government is to eliminate centralization of
authority. To distribute and limit what each level can do from the top to
the bottem. Read the 9th and 10th again.

> There is no cure for the chronic tendency of people in power to try and
> increase their scope. The repeated application of palliatives is the
> only way to deal with that social disease.

If you truly believe this then you should shoot yourself now and get it over
with.

There is a cure, that cure is to recognize the behaviour in people and build
systems that limit the opportunity to express it. The best plan we've come
up with so far is constitutional democracy.


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