From: Jim Choate <ravage@EINSTEIN.ssz.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 07:26:44 +0800
To: cypherpunks@EINSTEIN.ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
Subject: RE: The problem with 'Gilmore's RSAREF' site... (fwd)
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> From: Matthew James Gering <mgering@ecosystems.net>
> Subject: RE: The problem with 'Gilmore's RSAREF' site... (fwd)
> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:26:52 -0800 

> > Further, he's not willing to extend his legal protection to help 
> > others.
> 
> Has there been any indication that the EFF would not support or help someone
> being persecuted for crypto-export disobedience? I wouldn't rely on such

I've asked many times from the local chapter and the answer was always no. 
The EFF has certainly never offered legal support to anyone in the 8 years
or so they've been in existance, well other than Steve Jackson perhaps (I'm
not sure if the EFF helped defray any of his court costs).

> charity, nor is charity ever obligatory (that's socialism), but what reason
> do you have to discount it?
> 
> The essence of civil disobedience is many many individual targets, not one
> organization.

You should look into the history of civil disobedience then. The ONLY time
it works is when it is done via mass involvement. The NAACP and ACLU have
been quite effective within their limited areas of interest.

Your understanding of the history of civil disobedience is skewed at best. 

> I'm am not critical of any contribution, but I will be critical of someone
> chastising others contributions simply because they would do it differently.
> A call to arms to protect liberty is not a draft. If you don't want a gun,
> then don't take it, I won't even call you a Tory.

Then you should rethink your approach. Somebody asking to put your neck on
the block while they won't with their own is no contributor. I believe back
in the War of Indipendence THOSE people were called Tory.



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