1993-06-20 - Re: that cipher I wrote (pseudo random generators)

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From: gnu (John Gilmore)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com, gnu
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Raw Date: Sat, 19 Jun 93 18:57:35 PDT

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From: gnu (John Gilmore)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 93 18:57:35 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com, gnu
Subject: Re: that cipher I wrote (pseudo random generators)
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> What characteristics of the multiplier and modulator provide large periods?

Don't bother with looking for a large period (though Knuth spends
about half a book on pseudorandom number generators).  The problem is
that the sequence is predictable.  Given ten sequential values from
anywhere in the sequence, I think there are algorithms that will
determine the sequence.  This is from dim recall of some Crypto '90
presentations.  Perhaps someone has the papers in front of them, or
can re-derive the results?

Given plaintext XOR'd with a sequence, you can make pretty good guesses at
ten values in the sequence, and if you have to try a few thousand guesses,
it will still only take minutes or hours to crack.

	John





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