1994-04-20 - Re: Privacy and the lack thereof.

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From: “Christian D. Odhner” <cdodhner@indirect.com>
To: Jim Sewell - KD4CKQ <jims@Central.KeyWest.MPGN.COM>
Message Hash: 38746dc43c2d4e238aff0fe16e142618d69aa0aac2803e96da915dfde959f46a
Message ID: <Pine.3.89.9404200334.C219-0100000@id1.indirect.com>
Reply To: <9404192317.AA12080@Central.KeyWest.MPGN.COM>
UTC Datetime: 1994-04-20 10:30:19 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 03:30:19 PDT

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From: "Christian D. Odhner" <cdodhner@indirect.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 03:30:19 PDT
To: Jim Sewell - KD4CKQ <jims@Central.KeyWest.MPGN.COM>
Subject: Re: Privacy and the lack thereof.
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On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, Jim Sewell - KD4CKQ wrote:

> name/id.  Safe at last, or are you?  What if "they" analyzed all the
> ATM machines in that general area and got a report of everyone who 
> withdrew Gun_Price + 0-to-100 dollars. (Spending money).  They could
> narrow it down and eventually, since they suspect you anyway, get your
> pix from the ATM video camera.  Take this to the gun man and you're id'd.
> My point?  Does everyone do what I do... carry little cash and when you
> want to buy something with cash go to a machine and take it out within an
> hour of your purchase?  It seems to me if this is typical then we need to
> look at changing that habit since it can lead someone to you, albeit with
> great difficulty.

Jim, I am so glad I am not as paranoid as you. It would make my life a 
very distubing and scarry place to be. I am also glad that you *are* that 
paranoid, because I wouldn't have thought of that and it's the kind of 
thing that at least needs to be _mentioned_ in any serious discussion of 
security, privacy, anonymity, etc... even if it is hard to do anything to 
deter such a determined and powerfull (hopefully imaginary) opponent.  
Next time I make an illegal puchase, I'll be sure to have my picture 
taken at an ATM 10 miles away *at the same time* as the purchase is being 
made. If 'the infamous they' attempt such a corrolation, they will 
discover proof posotive that I did *not* make said purchase!  <g>

Happy Hunting, -Chris.

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