From: jkreznar@ininx.com (John E. Kreznar)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1994-04-30 07:42:58 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 30 Apr 94 00:42:58 PDT
From: jkreznar@ininx.com (John E. Kreznar)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 94 00:42:58 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Constitution and Contract [Was: CIA & FBI]
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Summary: Unicorn thoughtfully underscores the need for the defense
afforded by strong cryptography and other means.
He writes:
> The federal government rules by the sword, but proports to due so under
> the Constitution.
Thank you. It's good for a freedom-loving person to be reminded of the
nature of the threat.
The appeal of strong cryptography is that it may help to defend against
those who embrace this deceitful attitude.
> The continued acceptance of the process, the
> participation in elections, the oath that high officials take, the
> amendment process, the continued existence of the three branches of
> government, all lend themselves to the assumption that if not accepted,
> the Constitution is at least tolerated by the populous and the rulers.
It is for _exactly this reason_ that the freedom-loving person forbears
from willful participation.
> The United States does not claim its authority to be rooted in divine
> grant, nor in pure power over the people, nor in a quest for utopia, but
> in consent of the people.
...which is fine for a person who consents. The problem comes when he
assumes that the authority extends to his neighbor who does not consent.
> > John E. Kreznar | Relations among people to be by
> > jkreznar@ininx.com | mutual consent, or not at all.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> A Victorian after my own heart. I think we disagree, if we differ at
> all, in the application of this theory to grants of authority.
Again, this is no doubt wonderful for a person who grants his authority.
The trouble begins when he presumes that his neighbor, too, has granted
his authority.
John E. Kreznar | Relations among people to be by
jkreznar@ininx.com | mutual consent, or not at all.
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