From: ebrandt@muddcs.cs.hmc.edu (Eli Brandt)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 02:45:44 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com (cypherpunks list)
Subject: Re: Sue D. Nym
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> I think that the evidence is pretty strong that Sue isn't Larry.

This isn't something that needs to be argued.  If "Sue" is Larry
and reveals this through his or her actions, so be it.  If he/she isn't,
or doesn't, that's great.  (I do have to wonder, though, who else
would remail messages with Detweiler's "Organization: CRAM" header.)

> I suggest that the cypherpunks list has been dominated by a few people
> to a great extent.

Actually, we're all T.C.May.

> I want to avoid the police-state mentality, though, which permeates
> the thinking of many cypherpunks.

Could you elaborate on what you mean by this?  I doubt many people on
the list think that a full-blown _1984_ is just around the corner.
Some of us are, however, not enamored of Clipper, Digital Telephony,
ITAR, a National I.D. Card, or the like.  I trust this does not
constitute a full-blown "police-state mentality".

> But I know that the government that rises in its place will be
> different from any government the world has ever seen before, simply
> because the circumstances it will arise in will be so unique.

Hmm.  I hope millenarianism works better now than it did the first
time around.

   Eli   ebrandt@hmc.edu