1994-07-19 - DT, surveillance, and “the policeman inside”

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From: greg@ideath.goldenbear.com (Greg Broiles)
To: xentrac@cybele.unm.edu (Kragen J. Sittler)
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UTC Datetime: 1994-07-19 19:33:28 UTC
Raw Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 12:33:28 PDT

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From: greg@ideath.goldenbear.com (Greg Broiles)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 12:33:28 PDT
To: xentrac@cybele.unm.edu (Kragen J. Sittler)
Subject: DT, surveillance, and "the policeman inside"
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Kragen Sittler writes:

> Clipper is flopping and will continue
> to flop.  DT, in whatever form, will never be useful; the government
> simply does not have the resources to closely watch the phone network.

The fact that DT allows real-time monitoring of conversations is secondary;
the interesting effect is that it creates (to steal from .. Burroughs?)
"the policeman inside", who *does* watch us at every moment. Surveillance
can cause the subject to become his/her own watcher, an autonomous unit of
self-suppression. This is the real danger of Clipper and DT.
 

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