From: sameer <sameer@c2.org>
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 12:18:11 PDT
To: mark@unicorn.com (Rev. Mark Grant)
Subject: Re: An opportunity not to be missed
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	How did they get the logs? Did they have a court order?
And web logs only show the site things come from, not the username things
are coming from.

	If someone wants to set something up on c2.org, you're quite
welcome to. Check out http://www.c2.org (currently under
renovation.. my graphic designer is on vacation so I'm awaiting his
return before we can revamp the graphics, basically.)

	The ecash problem, of course, is a problem.

> 
> On Thu, 14 Sep 1995, Frank Stuart wrote:
> 
> > Is anyone in a position to set up a cypherpunks CrimeStoppers mailbox (for
> > use through the remailers)?  You could set up a web-page with instructions
> > and a list of crimes for which there are rewards.
> 
> Someone already tried that. The cops got a copy of the WWW logs and 
> started investigating everyone who'd looked at the WWW page... So at the 
> least you'd need a bunch of anonymous WWW proxies as well.
> 
> There's also the problem that the current ecash systems do not provide 
> payee anonymity, so if you pay informers with ecash they can be traced if 
> the bank and payer collude.
> 
> 		Mark
> 


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