From: Asgaard <asgaard@sos.sll.se>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1996-01-26 17:34:05 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 01:34:05 +0800
From: Asgaard <asgaard@sos.sll.se>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 01:34:05 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: "Gentlemen do not read each other's mail"
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Jim Bell wrote:
> While this may be based on the "classic" view of the start of the direct
> involvement in WWII, I agree with the opinion of an old college professor
> that the US KNEW that the Japanese were going to attack, SOMEWHERE and
> SOMEWHEN (but not exactly), and in fact WANTED the attack to occur to
> justify getting into a war that we "should" have entered.
Alan Horowitz added:
>I've read that FDR had a humint source warning of a Japanese strike on
>Pearl Harbor. I also recall reading that J Edgar Hoover received a report
>of a diplomatic conversation detailing the planned attack, but sat on it.
And this is from a post I sent to the list last summer:
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I just read 'Infamy' by John Toland (1982), containing 'proof'
- very convincing, in my opinion - of the Pearl Harbour cover-up.
The US president, selected members of his cabinette and a
few admirals and generals knew - from Magic and the 'winds'
execute, radio traffic analysis, diplomatic sources, double
agents - exactly when and where the Japaneese were going to
attack, but didn't warn Hawaii, fearing that too efficient
counter-measures by the Oahu military might make the attack
abort and so not convince the isolationists. The unexpected
tactical capabilities of the Japaneese armada then made a
cover-up all the more important.
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The unfortunate cipher expert Captain Safford spent most of
his post-war life trying to uphold the honour of his fellow
cryptanalysts, putting the blame on generals and politicians,
but in vain.
'Infamy' is an interesting book.
Asgaard
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