From: futplex@pseudonym.com (Futplex)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 09:52:19 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com (Cypherpunks Mailing List)
Subject: Re: CryptoPessimism (Was: Foiling Traffic Analysis)
In-Reply-To: <199601041734.SAA20843@utopia.hacktic.nl>
Message-ID: <199601050134.UAA06813@thor.cs.umass.edu>
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Anonymous claiming to be "We Jurgar Din" [perhaps truthfully, I didn't check
the PGP sig against previous ones] writes:
> Lucky, are you just the cynic's cynic, a farther-gone 
> revolutionary than you seem, or did you just have a bad month?

Lucky usually defines the pessimistic extreme of cypherpunk views of the
future (with Duncan at the other end). I tend to agree with Lucky's side, but
then I _am_ an inveterate cynic. But to be annoyingly cute about it,
inveterate != invertebrate. I don't envision a rosy scenario, but I'm not
giving up.

[various quoted Lucky lines elided]
> The answer to much of what you write off without a fight is 
> fairly obvious, but not yet being mentioned in open conversation.

Well, let's talk about it openly! I'm not terribly interested in answers of 
the form "God moves in mysterious ways" or "If you knew what I knew, you'd
support the government's proposal to do this", although most of the world
seems to find such answers enthralling.  

> Without intending this to be a flame, I'd respectfully suggest 
> that giving up the living room and den in the hope of a back- 
> bedroom campaign against a home invader is probably not a 
> workable strategy (if you'll allow a metaphor uncomfortably 
> close to the subject matter).

- From where I sit, Lucky seems to have been quite active on the front lines,
in spite (or perhaps because) of his rhetoric. 

Futplex <futplex@pseudonym.com>
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