From: Rich Graves <llurch@networking.stanford.edu>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:45:39 +0800
To: Andreas Bogk <andreas@horten.artcom.de>
Subject: Re: Opinion piece in NYT; responses needed
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On 30 Jan 1996, Andreas Bogk wrote:

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> >>>>> "Mutatis" == Mutatis Mutantdis <wlkngowl@unix.asb.com> writes:
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>     Mutatis> It's a decentered network (or set of networks) designed
>     Mutatis> to get information to its addressee.  Data flows through
>     Mutatis> several nodes and networks until it reaches its
>     Mutatis> destination.  If it can't get through one path, it goes
>     Mutatis> through the other.
> 
> This is unfortunately a wide-spread myth. While it's true for mail and
> news, it's not for IP packets. Witness:

No, it is the truth. The fact is that DT has gone and intentionally broken
*all* routes to webcom.com -- the SJ Merc said 129,000. 

But the point is moot. Try:

http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~llurch/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/zundel/pr.004.compuser.html
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/declan/www/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/pr.004.compuser.html

Is DT going to block every machine in stanford.edu, cmu.edu, mit.edu, 
uiuc.edu, harvard.edu, berkeley.edu, and so on?

Or from any machine with access to AFS, which includes thousands of 
academic and a few corporate machines in Germany, the following file 
system paths will work. With a simple symbolic link, any machine with AFS 
can become a mirror site.

/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/declan/www/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/pr.004.compuser.html
/afs/ir.stanford.edu/users/l/llurch/WWW/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/pr.004.compuser.html

Is DT going to block TCP port 80 and UDP ports 7000-7029 from every
machine in the world? 

-rich