From: jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>
To: Voters Telecommunications Watch <cypherpunks@toad.com
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Raw Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 03:27:15 +0800
From: jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 03:27:15 +0800
To: Voters Telecommunications Watch <cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: (INFO) Leahy/Goodlatte introduce crypto bill
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At 12:17 PM 3/5/96 -0500, Voters Telecommunications Watch wrote:
Dear Mr. Sadfar,
By now I'm sure you've read a few items that I posted not only to you, but
also to the cypherpunks mailing list, as well as the
NWLIBERTARIANS@teleport.com list. I believe you have made a grievous error
in your position apparently supporting the Leahy bill. As you presumably
understand by now, based on your description of the bill it contains an
extraordinarily serious flaw, in that it makes a new crime concerning the
USE of encryption.
Ostensibly, this is "reasonable," but I've already presented a scenario on
Cypherpunks (also posted to you; as I write this it may not yet have
appeared there, but I copied you) in which the government uses this
provision maliciously to go after anonymous remailers. While that was
merely a specific example, almost any service that protects the identity of
its customers and allows them network access is potentially at a serious
risk, because the US government has been known to fabricate a crime (for
example, the "Amateur Action" BBS case from a few years ago) in order to
make criminals out of non-criminals.
As you have quoted it, Leahy's bill allows the government to, in effect,
"stalk" a service provider (anonymous encrypted remailer, anonymous digital
cash bank, Internet access provider, etc) and create a crime that involves
the provider well beyond the standards described in this bill. The
government can CREATE a crime, "to order" as it were, and snare the service
provider in the net, despite the fact he has done nothing wrong. (In fact,
he could be "guilty" even if there was no way, short of going out of
business, to avoid the "crime.") This, I hope you agree, is totally
unacceptable, but despite this, you said:
>This provision only applies to you if you are using encryption to
>specifically foil a law enforcement investigation AND the communication
>relates to a felony AND you are using the communication to commit the
>felony. VTW feels this is a fairly narrowly drawn statute that is not
>likely to be easily abused.
Frankly, you made an error, and "it was a doozy!" But what I fear is that
you will "dig your heels in" and hesitate to admit it, and continue on
calling this "a good bill." You _would_ be right about that, except for the
specific portion that is referred to above.
(In addition, as Padgett Petersen noticed on Cypherpunks, that portion of
the bill seemingly contains an error of phrasing, although we can't tell and
we are depending on your quoting of that bill. Please verify that the
quotation you made was accurate, and please carefully read that portion to
see if you can identify the problem both Mr. Petersen and I observed.
Since it just about reverses the entire meaning of the paragraph, it is
vital to know what the actual bill said and meant.)
I strongly recommend that you _DRAMATICALLY_ change the tone of your
support: Please make it clear that your support for this bill is ENTIRELY
conditional on removing the offending section. (I see little or no problem
with your description of the rest of the bill, except for a few items I
mention below.) I certainly invite any challenge you'd care to make to my
reasoning and logic: If you feel I'm wrong in my estimation of what the
government could do with that portion of the bill, say so and back up your
analysis. If, on the other hand, you recognize that I'm right, or at least
on the right track, I think you have a certain moral responsibility
to ensure that this "wolf in sheep's clothing" doesn't get by the shepherd.
Remember, in your press release you said:
>VTW believes this legislation is an excellent initiative.
It would be far more accurate to say, "This legislation COULD BE an
excellent initiative, if a short section were removed."
>We predict that the White House will do everything in their power to
>prevent Senator Leahy from liberating PGP. He will need your help to
>push forward.
If this is REALLY true, then he will have to listen to our suggestions,
right? People listen WHEN THEY HAVE TO CONVINCE YOU OF SOMETHING. Failing
to make Leahy aware of what we consider terribly wrong with that bill would be
irresponsible. If Leahy REALLY wants the bill passed, and "all" the
potential supporters insist on the removal of the offending section, he will
have no choice but to do so, since it has already been widely predicted that
the administration will oppose it. If, indeed, they will oppose it, they
will oppose it REGARDLESS of whether it contains that bad spot or not.
>Over the next few months, VTW will be coordinating a coalition of
>names, many of which are already familiar to you. This coalition will
>ask you to call and write to Congress, expressing your opinion, and
>threatening to back it up with the ultimate legitimate weapon of
>democracy, your vote in this election year.
While I do indeed intend to vote in this election year, as you may be aware
I believe there are other weapons the public will eventually be able to use
against recalcitrant politicians and government employees of all types. The
government is presumably well aware of my position, and it would certainly
not be unexpected if they were desperately trying to avoid what I consider
to be an inevitable conclusion. This particular bad section, in what is
probably an otherwise-good bill, seems tailor-made to fight against
developments that I think this society and "our" government can't avoid, and
shouldn't avoid.
I'm not asking you to endorse, or for that matter even acknowledge, my
theories. However, you should at least take notice of the fact that
Congress' motivations are clearly to maintain its power over the citizenry,
and they will presumably act in predictable fashion to achieve this goal.
We've already got them on the run; they can't pass Clipper and they knew
they couldn't prosecute Zimmermann, and their position on ITAR is
resoundingly criticized by individuals and industry alike. Most people
agree that these rules have to change; it would be a tragedy if we "gave
away the store" just to get a few trinkets.
The fact is, this bill didn't have to contain the offending section, and it
doesn't have to keep it. If we make our absolute opposition to that portion
clear, who will stand up and support it? Only those people within
government who secretly want this bill to pass, that's who!
____________________________________________________________
>A FEW QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
>
>Q: Wasn't Goodlatte one of the bad guys on the Communications Decency Act?
> Why is he sponsoring this bill, and can we trust him?
>A: Goodlatte did indeed introduce the fatal amendment that made the House
> version of the Telecomm Bill unsupportable. Nevertheless, VTW has found
> that a Congressperson's vote on one sort of bill is little indication of
> his or her stand on others. VTW wil closely examine any change in the
> language of the bill throughout its Congressional life.
Well, frankly, it looks like SOMEBODY managed to sneak in a pit into the
cherry pie. (or a worm into the apple!) I wonder who could have done
this? What do you want to bet that there aren't any fingerprints on it?!?
>Q: Does this create a new obligations for key holders to disclose keys that
> they wouldn't have to comply with before?
>A: No. In fact, this bill makes it harder for a law enforcement official to
> retrieve a key from a key holder, by requiring a wiretap request instead
> of a simple search warrant.
In my opinion, key escrow agents should be required to inform THEIR CLIENT,
the actual user of the key, BEFORE giving the key to the cops. They should
also be obligated to fight any such request if the key holder requests it.
(Remember, if key-escrow is really voluntary, then it is a contract between
the encryption-user and the key escrow agent, and the encryption user should
be able to put whatever conditions he wishes on that relationship.
Presumably, he would not have entered into that relationship unless he was
able to control the disposition of the key.) Furthermore, the cops should
not be allowed to do any decryption of any material wiretapped before they
possess the key itself.
In summary, I think you really need to revisit your support for this bill.
It is only a short distance away from being a good bill, but that is a trip
we must make if we are to protect and even expand our freedom.
Jim Bell
jimbell@pacifier.com
Klaatu Burada Nikto
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