1996-04-06 - Re: So, what crypto legislation (if any) is necessary?

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From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
To: sameer@c2.org
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UTC Datetime: 1996-04-06 03:34:06 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 11:34:06 +0800

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From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 11:34:06 +0800
To: sameer@c2.org
Subject: Re: So, what crypto legislation (if any) is necessary?
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On Fri, 5 Apr 1996 sameer@c2.org wrote:

> 	What's the point here, or is Unicorn just having fun
> lambasting Jim Bell?
> 
> 	My basic attitude, running an internet privacy provider, is if
> Mr. Govt. wants my data, and gives me a court order (subpoena,
> "compelled discovery", whatever), then I'll give it to 'em.
> 	If my customers that they were looking for had any brains at
> all, a court order, compelled discover, whatever, will not help
> Mr. Govt. That's the cornerstone of my security model.
> 
> 	Or am I confused about what you are talking about here.

Yours seems to be about the most aggressive policy a ISP provider can 
take and expect to remain in business.

That is, resist by what legal means are available, but ultimately depend 
on the user to secure his or her own data.

Where I differ with Mr. Bell is that he seems to think the ISPs of the 
world are going to rise and unite to quash the oppressive hand of big 
government at their own expense in order to satisify some sense of 
personal ethics or customer goodwill.


> -- 
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> 

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