From: DrG <manus@manus.org>
Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 23:02:15 +0800
To: freedom-knights@jetcafe.org
Subject: Re: Internet/Obscenity Legal Gathering in NYC
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On Wed, 8 May 1996, Dr. Dimitri Vulis wrote:

> I haven't seen this announcement reposted to this mailing list, and I think
> it's of sufficient interest to warrant reposting:
> 
> Newsgroups: misc.legal,alt.censorship,misc.legal.moderated,talk.politics,alt.privacy
> From: ra@panix.com (Ron Abramson)
> Subject: Free program on net censorship in NYC
> Message-ID: <Dr1vDJ.Cr8@world.std.com>
> Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 17:49:08 GMT
> 
> Announcement: Free Program On Net Censorship
> in New York City, May 22 at 7:30 P.M.
> --------------------------------------------
> 
> THE FIRST AMENDMENT IN CYBERSPACE:  Regulating the On-Line
> Dissemination of "Indecent Material"
> 
> This program will address the issue of the First Amendment as
> applied to the Internet and On-line services.  Special focus
> will be given to the new federal law which is intended to
> regulate the dissemination of "Indecent Material" via these
> mediums.
> 
Now just WHY do these assholes wast everybodies time talking about something
that everybody KNOWS is unconstitutional?

These fucking lawyers just pull the stunts so they can go and have lunch 
in a tax-deductable manner, and meet the requirements for some CLE hours 
that is mandated by the State. This whole affair will be a sham as usual.

> The Association of the Bar of the City of New York
> 42 W 44TH Street, New York, New York (Bet. 5th and 6th Avenues)
> (212) 382-6600
> 

This New York Bar has the WORST reputation of any local
association that I know.  Last year they discussed the
legalization of crack and other hard drugs in a "drug-law
revamping" seminar, and Mayor Guliani almost SHIT!

> Wednesday, May 22, 1996, 7:30 till 9 P.M.
> 
> Moderator:
> CHARLES R. NESSON
> Weld Professor of Law, Harvard law School
> 
> Panelists:
> ROBERT FLORES
> Senior Trial Attorney, Child Exploitation and Obscenity
> Section, U.S. Department of Justice
> 

See, the "kid-porn" is the whole fucking issue here, and they
are going to go trying to regulate text because if this concern.

> MICHAEL GODWIN
> General Counsel, Electronic Frontier Foundation
> 

That guy is an asshole. The whole EFF is a joke!

> STEPHEN M. HEATON
> General Counsel, Compuserve, Inc.
> 
Censorous bastard.

> NORMAN REDLICH
> Wachtell, Lipton Rosen & Katz, former Dean,
> New York University School of Law
> 
> BRUCE TAYLOR
> President and Chief Counsel, National Center for
> Children and Families
> 
See, this porn issue is diluting everything.

> Co-sponsored by:
> Committee on Computer Law, Joseph P. Zammit, Chair
> Committee on Lectures and Continuing Education,
>   Normal L. Green, Chair
> 

Yes, to get "continuing legal education" credits for
just BULLSHITTING about something these lawyers are all
incompetent at.

> Members of the Association, their guests and all other
> interested persons are invited to attend.
> 
> No fees or reservations are required.
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> Dr. Dimitri Vulis
> Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
> 

Go to this meeting and ask these fucking dumb lawyers how the fuck they 
expect to enforce a law against US citizens that they cannot enforce against
Canadian or Mexican citizens.  The whole fucking concept of trying to 
regulate cyberspace by the laws of any one country is ABSURD!

Then ask them if any of them know who tale or speedbump is.
If they do not know that, they have no reason even talking
about cyberspace.


-DrG