From: tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:01:38 +0800
To: perry@piermont.com
Subject: Re: Why I dislike Java. (was Re: "Scruffies" vs. "Neats")
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At 8:18 PM 4/30/96, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>Timothy C. May writes:

>> Perry, that essay was, as I said, sent out before it was finished.
>[...]
>> Now, while you may have _anticipated_ the point I was going to make in the
>> completed essay, you cannot say I have "mischaracterized" anyone's attitude
>> at this point!
>
>I could only respond to the statments you made, not the ones you could
>have made.

OK, Perry, I just have to give up on you. It's hopeless. You claim I
mischaracterized your position on Java and scruffies/neats when in fact I
never mentioned either your name nor the connection of my points to Java. I
point this out and you reply with some smartass comment which is completely
disingenuos.

Just as when you claimed Java applications can't do file i/o, and several
people point out that you are wrong and that it is _applets_ that you must
have been thinking of (and not even always for applets, by the way).
Instead of admitting you were wrong, or misread the post, you just say
"Same difference."

It's pointless to try to have a discussion with you. Which is too bad.

>In any case, I'm not sure that there is such a thing either as a
>"Security Scruffy" or a "Security Neat" in the argument about Java;
>the breakdown in opinions occurs along very different lines.

I suggest you wait until you see what I have to say on this before jumping
the gun by assuming you know what it is I'm going to say (or that someone
saying "application" must have really meant to say "applet").

--Tim May

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