1996-07-24 - Re: Brute Force DES
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From: “Perry E. Metzger” <perry@piermont.com>
To: The Deviant <deviant@pooh-corner.com>
Message Hash: 6c07cd88209c9691e5b9794f25c890abc4e73cbffd82c5407e5bf9b74858c7ce
Message ID: <199607241617.MAA18214@jekyll.piermont.com>
Reply To: <Pine.LNX.3.94.960724063243.1558B-100000@switch.sp.org>
UTC Datetime: 1996-07-24 20:22:06 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:22:06 +0800
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From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:22:06 +0800
To: The Deviant <deviant@pooh-corner.com>
Subject: Re: Brute Force DES
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.94.960724063243.1558B-100000@switch.sp.org>
Message-ID: <199607241617.MAA18214@jekyll.piermont.com>
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The Deviant writes:
> Buy the point is to prove that DES shouldn't be used, not that it CAN
> be brute forced. A known-plaintext attack doesn't show that. We hafta
> attack something we've never seen. (i.e. talk Netscape, or some other
> company, into generating a DES'd message, and keeping the keys safe)
Known plaintext isn't needed. You just need a plaintext with some
decent statistical properties.
Dave Wagner has some information on this.
Perry
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- 1996-07-23 (Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:56:49 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - “Peter Trei” <trei@process.com>
- 1996-07-23 (Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:00:29 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - “Perry E. Metzger” <perry@piermont.com>
- 1996-07-23 (Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:20:15 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - Kevin L Prigge <Kevin.L.Prigge-2@tc.umn.edu>
- 1996-07-24 (Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:54:19 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - The Deviant <deviant@pooh-corner.com>
- 1996-07-24 (Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:11:15 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - Adam Shostack <adam@homeport.org>
- 1996-07-24 (Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:22:06 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - “Perry E. Metzger” <perry@piermont.com>
- 1996-07-25 (Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:06:16 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
- 1996-07-24 (Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:54:19 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - The Deviant <deviant@pooh-corner.com>
- 1996-07-24 (Wed, 24 Jul 1996 20:57:56 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - Julian Assange <proff@suburbia.net>
- 1996-07-23 (Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:20:15 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - Kevin L Prigge <Kevin.L.Prigge-2@tc.umn.edu>
- 1996-07-25 (Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:33:23 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - Olmur <olmur@dwarf.bb.bawue.de>
- 1996-07-25 (Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:23:59 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - Adam Shostack <adam@homeport.org>
- 1996-07-23 (Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:00:29 +0800) - Re: Brute Force DES - “Perry E. Metzger” <perry@piermont.com>