From: jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>
To: Alan Horowitz <alanh@infi.net>
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From: jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:02:05 +0800
To: Alan Horowitz <alanh@infi.net>
Subject: Re: Digital Watermarks for copy protection in recent Billbo
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At 08:08 PM 7/23/96 -0400, Alan Horowitz wrote:
>> However, what is somewhat less
>> well-known is the fact that in order to keep higher frequencies from being
>> "aliased" (reflected to lower frequencies by heterodyne processes) it is
>> necessary to remove (by filtering) any frequency content above that maximum,
>> before sampling is done.
>
> Well, fudge sticks. That sounds like this thing called an "image" in
>heterodyne analog RF receivers. I know how those work.
Sampling produces essentially the same effect.
>What is the physical basis for "aliasing" as you describe, in the
>sampling theater of operations?
Sampling a signal of frequency f1 at a rate of f2 produces two mixes, f1+f2
and f1-f2. The sum is sufficiently high that it isn't a concern, the
difference could be. If you have an input containing frequencies up to 25
Khz, and you sample it at a rate of 40 kilosamples per second, the input
frequency of 25 kilohertz gets mirrored down to 15 kilohertz, which is far
lower than its original frequency. This is a problem!
Some of the early voice-scramblers used this effect, heterodyning the audio
band with a higher-frequency signal and reversing it, changing higher
frequencies to lower and vice versa. Not particularly "secure" by today's
standards, but it probably kept a few people from understanding what's going
on. I've heard, however, that with practice you could learn to understand
such frequency-inverted speech, as odd as it sounds.
Jim Bell
jimbell@pacifier.com
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