From: Florian Lengyel <flengyel@dorsai.org>
To: frogfarm@yakko.cs.wmich.edu
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From: Florian Lengyel <flengyel@dorsai.org>
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 23:25:51 +0800
To: frogfarm@yakko.cs.wmich.edu
Subject: Re: Court challenge to AOL junk-mail blocks
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Damaged Justice wrote:
>
> This is utter horseshit. AOL, like any private individual or organization,
> has the right to refuse service to anyone at any time for any reason, or
> even for no reason at all.
That seems to undermine the analogy that the Internet is like an immense
electronic postal service, which suggests a more public than private
enterprise.
I take issue with the assumption that a carrier of the "internet postal
service" has the status of a "private individual or organization." I
think
that a corporation providing a mail delivery service might not be as
free as
a private individual is to set arbitrary limits on the services they
provide
to their customers. Unlike the people who donate their time and
resources to the Internet out of goodwill, and who may set arbitrary
limits on the services
they provide, in my experience, out of bad will, and who cannot be so
easily
removed, a corporation's business can suffer if it doesn't provide
services.
One of the good things about the commercialization of the Internet is
that
you can fire those who, instead of providing a service, are busy
exercising arbitrary rights to refuse services unfairly or for no reason
whatsoever.
If the Internet is supposed to be some sort of postal service, and the
ISP's are supposed to be akin to carriers, who don't regulate content,
then I think its wrong for them to regulate the content of the mail
service that they provide, even in the case of junkmail. (Of course
ISP's may impose various network controls that may have the effect of
restricting mass mailings without discriminating against content per se.
However, it is naive to assume that many network controls will not have
some effect on content, simply because of a logical distinction between
network control and editorial control - how many times have you heard
various thinkers complain that the TV network soundbite isn't enough to
sustain critical commentary, etc?)
>The gubmint isn't doing SQUAT, except forcing
> AOL to allow the spammers access.
Since I reject the flat assumption that corporate ISP's have the same
freedom as private individuals to set limits on the internet services
they provide - in this case their freedom to act is limited by business
constraints - it's fair to ask why it's morally OK for ISP's to censor
junkmail, but if the government wants to step in, that's another
matter entirely.
I'm not in favor of the government stepping in, but I am in favor of
some consequences of the commercialization of the internet. A bad
consequence is the increased volume of junkmail. A good consequence
is the possibility of removing people who act as arbirary censors
of other people's mail or speech, who invoke their rights as private
individuals to regulate the services they provide for any reason
whatsoever, while they hold their government to a higher standard
of conduct, and even seek the protection of their government to
act like petty dictators.
>
> --
> http://yakko.cs.wmich.edu/~frogfarm ...for the best in unapproved information
> Hey, Bill Clinton: You suck, and those boys died! I hope you die!
> I feel a groove comin' on $ Freedom...yeah, right.
>
F Lengyel flengyel@dorsai.org http://www.dorsai.org/~flengyel
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