From: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:11:07 +0800
To: Moroni <moroni@scranton.com>
Subject: Re: Utah as a Religious Police State [RANT]
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On the below: Gentiles (and Jews) are *very* afraid of Mormons.  Maybe 
it has something to do with the World's Largest Database (on non-Mormons 
especially) they keep under that mountain near SLC Utah.

Moroni wrote:
> I never cease to be surprised by the interest that gentiles show  in
> working mormon communities while totally neglecting their own failing
> areas.

> On Sun, 29 Sep 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:
> > (I received this message, with "cypherpunks@sybase.com" as well as
> > "tcmay@sybase.com" (???) cc:ed, so I assume this message was intended for
> > the Cypherpunks list, with some sybase domain name weirdness, or reflector,
> > going on.)

> > At 12:30 PM -0400 9/29/96, Ryan Russell/SYBASE wrote:
> > >I guess that depends on your definition of liberty.  The Mormons
> > >originally moved there to have a place to practice their religion,
> > >and have freedom from persecution.  I suppose one could extend that
> > >to wanting a place to have the freedom to have a set of rules consistant
> > >with their beliefs.  Should that include freedom from interferance from
> > >folks such as yourself who want to change their rules, even though
> > >you're not presently effected?
> >
> > Well, if Utah can rig a way to _secede_ from the Union, your arguments
> > would make more sense. But so long as they are part of these United States,
> > their religious beliefs about when children should be at home cannot
> > supersede basic liberties.

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