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1996-10-05 - Re: “Macintosh – the Surveillance System for the Rest of Us

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From: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Message Hash: 9dd40112bacfe6e98b25c58fcd8825706db4155e9d9a53a6bec5c15b7c9e457a
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UTC Datetime: 1996-10-05 04:59:37 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:59:37 +0800

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From: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:59:37 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: "Macintosh -- the Surveillance System for the Rest of Us
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Timothy C. May wrote:
> At 1:17 PM -0700 10/3/96, Lucky Green wrote:
> >On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:
> >> I think we should support Microsoft and Netscape in their nonparticipation
> >> in the Cabal. Sometimes being an 800-pound gorilla has its advantages.
> >Indeed we do need to support Netscape and <sigh> Microsoft as long as
> >they oppose GAK.

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> (Why Apple would go along with this, while Microsoft and Netscape are
> apparently not playing ball, is incomprehensible to me. Apple risks
> alienating its remaining core user base, who often characterize Microsoft
> as "the Borg." So, Apple capitulates, while MS does not. I guess the
> "Macintosh Crypto Forum" didn't do a lot of good, did it?)

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At the risk of offending some people, it occurs to me that there were 
considerable arguments going around about Windows etc. copying ideas 
from Apple Mac and so on, but looking at it from the other end, since 
when does the appearance of crypto programs on a Mac make it something 
it's not?

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