From: Joe Shea <joeshea@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:51:21 +0800
To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
Subject: Re: White House crypto proposal -- too little, too late
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	You just managed to justify your own censorship of the list, 
Declan.  Talk about clueless!

Best,

Joe Shea
Editor-in-Chief
The American Reporter
joeshea@netcom.com
http://www.newshare.com:9999


On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Declan McCullagh wrote:

> Joe, you submitted three pieces in roughly so many days to
> fight-censorship-announce, with is a moderated announcement-only
> mailing list that I send one or two pieces to each day. With some rare
> exceptions (like feedback I got on my anti-Net-univ-service rant) I
> don't pass along comments.
> 
> If you want to distribute them to the discussion list, address them to
> fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu instead. Perhaps you should join that
> list. It gets about 15 messages a day.
> 
> But don't blame me for your own cluelessness. RTFM instead of whining.
> 
> -Declan
> 
> PS: Freedom of speech includes the right not to speak. If I choose not
> to publish your stuff, my right to do so is protected under the First
> Amendment. Don't like it? Start your own
> Joe-Shea's-wacko-views-on-First-Amendment-jurisprudence mailing list
> instead. I'll even help you set it up.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Joe Shea wrote:
> 
> > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:47:59 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Joe Shea <joeshea@netcom.com>
> > To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
> > Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com
> > Subject: Re: White House crypto proposal -- too little, too late
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 	Declan, how does your list work?  Do you only publish comments 
> > that agree with you?  I didn't see my first two, and this one only came 
> > with your response.  Is this your version of freedom of the press, or what?
> > 
> > Joe Shea
> > Editor-in-Chief
> > The American Reporter
> > joeshea@netcom.com
> > http://www.newshare.com:9999
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 20:19:16 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
> > > To: fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu
> > > Cc: joeshea@netcom.com
> > > Subject: Re: White House crypto proposal -- too little, too late
> > > 
> > > [Joe, this may be yet another area where we disagree. It represents a
> > > power grab by law enforcement; the infrastructure is prone to failure
> > > and can be compromised; it's more government meddling and coercion and
> > > more restrictions on free speech; the Fed bureaucrats controlling this
> > > are vulnerable to special-interest lobbying; the Constitution gives
> > > the Federal government no right to impose such restrictions; the FBI
> > > has demonstrated that we can't trust the Feds with our most personal
> > > information; it violates an absolute right to privacy; and it's
> > > technically impractical for a good number of applications. --Declan]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:57:51 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Joe Shea <joeshea@netcom.com>
> > > To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
> > > Cc: fight-censorship
> > > Subject: Re: FC: White House crypto proposal -- too little, too late
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 	Declan's most recent piece makes much more sense than the earlier
> > > one.  He is quite correct in emphasizing the future vulnerability of the
> > > encryption logarithms rather than centering on whether or not terrorists
> > > might use them.  By making them impossible to crack without the key, and
> > > permitting the key to be available to appropriate law enforcement
> > > authorities when absolutely necessary, everyone's real needs are 
> > > satisfied, I think.  I enjoyed this report a lot.
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > 
> > > Joe Shea
> > > Editor-in-Chief
> > > The American Reporter
> > > joeshea@netcom.com
> > > http://www.newshare.com:9999
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
>