From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:52:06 -0800 (PST)
To: jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: RICO - (Was: Group order for Secret Power)
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On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, jim bell wrote:

> At 03:13 AM 11/8/96 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote:
> >On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, jim bell wrote:
> 
> >> But the odd thing is, the one entity we can't seem to attack using RICO is 
> >> the Federal government, and probably most other governments levels.  Looked 
> >> at purely objectively, it should be easy to demonstrate that the Federal 
> >> government (and its representatives) have engaged in plenty of crime as a 
> >> pattern of activity, and certainly enough to rise to the level of the 
> >> standards of RICO. (It takes only a few instances of such crime satisfy the 
> >> standards of RICO.)
> >
> >Incorrect.  Employees of the Federal Government can be, and have been,
> >prosecuted under RICO.  Many political corruption cases involve some RICO
> >aspects.  This should make Mr. Bell a big fan of the statute, unless he
> >just likes the flash of murdering officials instead.
> 
> No, I meant the ENTIRE government  Not just individual government officials. 
>  Remember, RICO is _supposed_ to apply to any organization with a pattern of 
> criminal activity, and has been used (in fact, probably mostly used) against 
> organizations where many of the members are "merely" employees, quite 
> analogous to the Federal government.  If RICO applies to anything, it should 
> apply to the Feds, and that means conviction of the entire organization if 
> it or its employees have a pattern of illegal activity.   Since RICO only 
> requires a relatively tiny number of criminal acts to meet its standards, it 
> should not be difficult to show enough criminality.

Read the statute again.  An entire corporation is not seized even if the
CEO, CFO, and Board are all convicted on RICO charges.

Bah, why do I bother even trying with you anymore?  It's clear you're
beyond help or hope.

> 
> 
> 
> Jim Bell
> jimbell@pacifier.com
> 

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