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1996-11-21 - Re: Stewart Baker on new crypto rules

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From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
To: Jon Galt <jongalt@pinn.net>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-11-21 20:45:09 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:45:09 -0800 (PST)

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From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:45:09 -0800 (PST)
To: Jon Galt <jongalt@pinn.net>
Subject: Re: Stewart Baker on new crypto rules
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On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Jon Galt wrote:

> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 11:02:30 EST
> From: Jon Galt <jongalt@pinn.net>
> To: shamrock@netcom.com
> Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com, froomkin@law.miami.edu
> Subject: Re: Stewart Baker on new crypto rules
> 
> > On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Hal Finney wrote:
> > 
> > Just so we are all clear about what HP is up to: in August, 1996, I
> > attended a presentation by HP's policy person. He was touting the
> > anti-four horsemen properties of HP/TIS/unnamed other's "voluntary" "key
> > recovery"  system. When I pointed out to him that voluntary GAK could not
> > possibly defend against criminals using strong crypto, since such
> > criminals are unlikely to register their keys with the "escrow" agency, he
> > replied: 
> > 
> > "There are many 
> > possible interpretations of the words 'voluntary' and 'mandatory'."
> > 
> > I am willing to testify to this under oath.
> > 
> > I don't know what dictionary HP is using. Orwell himself must have 
> > written it.
> 
> Try Black's Law Dictionary, 6th Edition.  The IRS uses it all the time.

Or my favorate supreme court quote:

Threat of loss, not hope of gain, is the essence of coercion.

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