From: Declan McCullagh <declan@eff.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:41:58 -0800 (PST)
To: Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>
Subject: RE: Mass-market crypto phones
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As Hayek reminded us 50 years ago, even democracies can evolve into a 
totalitarian state.

Be ever vigilant, blah.

-Declan

PS: Over margaritas and enchiladas tonight, I was talking with one of the
crypto-ITAR enforcers from State. I mentioned that I'd be going out of the
country soon and taking my PowerBook laptop. Quite sincerely, he urged me
to keep a record of when I left and when I returned for five years. You
see, I have domestic Netscape Navigator on it. Wacky stuff. 


On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Lucky Green wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Peter Trei wrote:
> > It's kind of pathetic - I'm sure that the billions lost to cellular fraud 
> > far outweigh the value of crimes that the  LEA groups have been 
> > able  prevent by preserving their ability to illegally eavesdrop on 
> > cell calls without a warrant.
> 
> The LEA's are not intested in saving the public money. They are 
> interested in preserving and expanding their power. If it costs 
> $1,000,000 per wiretap, who cares? The government has men with guns that 
> can always go out and extort more cash from the population.
> 
> --Lucky
> 


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