From: jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:32:49 -0800 (PST)
To: Declan McCullagh <declan@eff.org>
Subject: Re: PGP in Russia
Message-ID: <199612070232.SAA04844@mail.pacifier.com>
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At 02:29 AM 12/6/96 -0800, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>A slight correction -- taking PGP out of the US is not illegal, as long 
>as you take adequate measures under the presonal use exception to prevent 
>your laptop from being stolen by foreign nationals and keep records of 
>your trip for five years. At least that's what y my friend from the State 
>Dept told me when we had dinner a few weeks ago. 

Don't the ITARs say it's illegal to "disclose" that material to a foreign 
person?  If that's the case, then presumably a person could take the 
material out of the country without "disclosing it," or he could "disclose" 
it to that foreign person inside the US.    True, the government seems to 
have already taken the position that there is a personal-use exemption, but 
so far we haven't heard any action with regards to in-country disclosure to 
a foreigner.  I'm not trying to give them any nasty ideas, but a domestic 
sting with this as its nexus seems possible.

Jim Bell
jimbell@pacifier.com