From: jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>
To: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-12-17 03:41:54 UTC
Raw Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:41:54 -0800 (PST)
From: jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:41:54 -0800 (PST)
To: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
Subject: Re: ITARs effects
Message-ID: <199612170339.TAA20929@mail.pacifier.com>
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At 08:23 PM 12/14/96 -0500, Robert Hettinga wrote:
>At 7:09 pm -0500 12/14/96, Adam Shostack wrote:
>> My understanding is that they choose not to continue
>>per^H^Hrosecuting Phil for putting the code up for FTP. Thus, this is
>>a change. Or did Phil not put the code up for FTP?
>
>Actually, it's my understanding that PRZ didn't do it personally. Someone
>else got the code from Phil and put it on the net. Phil had nothing to do
>with it. Except for writing PGP, of course. :-).
I suppose one of the myriad reasons it would have been difficult/impossible
to prosecute Zimmermann is that, because the "crime" was approaching the end
of the statute of limitations, the prospect existed that sometime during the
trial, we could have had a "Perry Mason"-type ending, with somebody else
standing up and claiming credit for the (then past the limit) act of
uploading PGP. If the standard used for conviction was "beyond a reasonable
doubt," it would be just about impossible to convict unless the gov't had
some sort of person-specific evidence, rather than merely evidence that PGP
got onto the web.
Jim Bell
jimbell@pacifier.com
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