From: Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:17:50 -0800 (PST)
To: Toto <toto@sk.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Dr. Vulis' social engineering experiment
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                          SANDY SANDFORT
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C-punks,

On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Toto wrote:

>   In short, I believe that if the issue of free speech is not one of
> the central issues on the CypherPunks list, then the list is merely
> one more heartless, unfeeling extension of the Great Machine which
> is grinding inexorably forward toward the day when we will all have
> its numbers tattoo'd on our forearms.

While free speech is an undeniably important topic, It is just
one of many that could be discussed on this list.  A concern for
protecting privacy was the raison d'etre for the creation of the 
Cypherpunks list.  And technological self-help was always the 
modus operandi of choice.  Obviously, speech and privacy issues
are related, but they are not synonymous.  Again, I am not saying
Cypherpunks do not care about free speech issues.  There focus,
though, is on achieving privacy through technological means.
Works for me.


 S a n d y

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