1997-01-03 - Re: Internal Passports

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From: “Timothy C. May” <tcmay@got.net>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1997-01-03 04:14:16 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:14:16 -0800 (PST)

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From: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:14:16 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Internal Passports
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At 10:35 PM -0800 12/31/96, Bill Frantz wrote:
>At 11:02 AM -0800 12/31/96, Timothy C. May wrote:
>>There have been several reports cited here recently about changes in the SS
>>laws to make the SS number more of an ID number. ...
>>And concerns about "identity theft" when such a simple thing as an SS
>>number is the key to so many records, rights, etc.
>I don't see how you can have the SS number be both a public ID number and a
>secret password.  Perhaps you could have it be one, but not both.  It seems
>to me that parts of our society are trying have it be a password and parts
>a public ID number.  (Perhaps the same parts?)  Doing both just won't work.
>(Using SS as a password is subject to all the stealing and replay attacks
>that make passwords a really bad idea for secure identification.)


I never made such a claim, that SS numbers are any kind of secret key or

The phrase "identity theft," not coined by me, is a recent term of art
involving the ease with which those with access to a person's SS number can
then acquire credit cards, etc.

--Tim May

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