From: ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 20:19:30 -0800 (PST)
To: frissell@panix.com (Duncan Frissell)
Subject: Re: Jim Bell raid
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To all lawyers out there: aren't there PUBLIC RECORDS that contain
teh search warrant with the probably cause explanation and other
material? It would be interesting to send a letter to some court
and ask for all public record stuff about jimbell.

just an idea

igor

Duncan Frissell wrote:
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> At 12:16 PM 4/3/97 -0800, Greg Broiles wrote:
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> >It looks to me like this is real. Yow. Jim Bell is a goddamn loon, but I
> >haven't seen him write anything that I thought was criminal. 
> 
> The government persists in harassing or arresting people in these 1st
> Amendment cases even though they know they will not even be able to survive a
> motion to dismiss.  It seems to be recreational for them.  You can tell
> they're not serious because they didn't arrest Jim.   
> 
> JB has certainly managed to get noticed amongst all the "noise" out there in
> the world.  Very difficult to do.  And it's getting worse with the Nets.  How
> many death threats must whitehouse.gov get these days?  They probably lack
> the person power to investigate all of them.  
> 
> This will be another one where the raid gets publicity and the failure to
> prosecute is only noticed by a few.  When they drop him, he should trumpet it
> far and wide.  The dropping of the Jake Baker case got little publicity and I
> even had another lawyer on one of the law lists say that he thought they
> might try for another indictment.  I knew they'd never get anywhere.
> 
> In those very rare cases where you get a guaranteed government loss criminal
> investigation/prosecution the party involved should verbally abuse the
> government and point out their manifest pathetic weakness.  It is very rare
> to be in that situation because the government won't usually back a loser.  I
> urged Phil Z. to take an aggressive approach in his case but he felt
> uncomfortable about the idea.  Perhaps as a "leftie" he granted the inherent
> authority of the government and was reluctant to bash it.
> 
> So, JB, find a Portland cybercafe and let 'em have it.
> 
> DCF
> 
> "Obligatory John Donne quote:  Do Not Ask For Whom the Bell Tools.  It Tolls
> For Thee."
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	- Igor.