From: frissell@panix.com
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 10:12:08 +0800
To: Alan <cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
Subject: Re: New Laws in Oregon - "Land of the Legal betatest"
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At 11:00 AM 6/20/97 -0700, Alan wrote:
>I sometimes think that Oregon is being used as a beta test for some of the
>more draconian laws due for the rest of the country.

That's what happens when you live in places settled by those "Scandahuvians." 
 They're real control freaks.  And they attract other control freaks.

>An example is the new law waiting to be signed by the Govenor.  It would
>expand the reasons a cop can use to detain and search you.  Currently they
>need to have probable cause that you committed a crime.  The new law
>expands that to probible cause that you are about to commit a crime and a
>whole host of things they can detain and question you on.  

As in what?  Since you can (and always should) refuse to answer cop's 
questions (beyond name, rank and serial number) they can ask all they want 
but since they aren't judges they can't order you to say anything much.  
Lying is considered obstruction of justice but silence isn't.  

DCF

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